ISCAST–NZCIS Conversations 2025, in collaboration with the Centre for Theology and Psychology.
Announcing speakers and topics (+ more information on the Conversations series below)
| Dr Alan Gijsbers | 20th March |
What are the Sciences and Spiritualties of Clinical Practice?
| Dr Hayley Thomas | 27th March |
Delving Under the Surface: Eating Disorders and Christian Spirituality
| Dr Danny Cheah | 3rd April |
Understanding Mental Health Issues in Children, Young People and Families from a Christian Perspective #dontjustprayitaway
| Dr Brett Mann | 10th April |
TBA
| Dr Mel Fung | 24th April |
Understanding and Responding to Gender Dysphoria: Research and Clinical Experience
| Dr Christa McKirland | 1st May |
Authority and Power Structures in the Church Which Undermine Individual Agency
| Dr Nicolette Deva | 8th May |
TBA
| Dr Ruth McConnell | 15th May |
Responding to the Growing Mental Health Crisis as a Christian: Clinical and Theological Perspectives
| Prof. Jee Huyn Kim | 22nd May |
A Christian Scientist’s Views on Memory and Forgetting in Mental Disorders
Thursday 20th Mar 2025 @ 6:30 pm –
Thursday 22nd May 2025 @ 7:30 pm
Online (Zoom)

This series of online conversations delves into the growing mental health crisis, where mental illness is often a private battle that affects the deepest parts of the self and compromises one’s sense of identity. Compounded by shame, stigma, and the difficulty of accessing meaningful help, mental health challenges continue to rise.
With mental illness projected to become the largest global healthcare burden by 2030, how might Christians think and respond, both clinically and theologically? Despite advances in science and technology, why are true cures elusive? Are we asking the wrong questions? Is the modern environment—characterised by technology, isolation, abstract thinking, and alienation from nature—contributing to this hidden suffering?
Furthermore, what does Christian faith have to offer those struggling with mental illness? Can we redefine wellness and well-being to encompass both the “long dark night of the soul” and the pursuit of joy and flourishing?
Join ISCAST and NZCIS, this time in collaboration with the Centre for Theology and Psychology at Melbourne School of Theology, for a 9-week series exploring Christian perspectives on some of the greatest mental health challenges of our time.
DETAILS:
- Thursday nights from 20 March until 22 May, with a break for Easter week (Thursday 17 April)
- Starts 6:30 p.m. AEST or 8:30 p.m. NZST.
- Presentation: 30 minutes
- Discussion & Questions: 30 minutes
THE SESSIONS WILL COVER:
- Drug addiction
- Eating disorders
- Gender dysphoria
- Christian contemplation
- Mental health issues in children
- Memory and the role of forgetting in mental disorders
- Fostering agency within the church
- Human flourishing
- The growing mental health crisis
PRICES:
For this Conversations series, you can either register for the full series, or register for separate sessions.
We’re offering ISCAST and NZCIS members 50% off. If you’re a student member, you can register for free! Become a member of ISCAST or NZCIS today.
- $70 for the full series ($35 for ISCAST/NZCIS Members)
- $20 for student/concession, full series (FREE for student/concession members of ISCAST or NZCIS)
- $15 per session upon special request ($7.50 for ISCAST/NZCIS members)
About the ISCAST–NZCIS Conversations
Since 2020, ISCAST and New Zealand Christians in Science have run the Conversations series, with an aim to promote a dialogue between the sciences and the Christian faith. Experts are invited to speak on their topic, which is then followed by a Q&A and discussion.
“The result of the Conversations for me is that theology and science together now truly inform my worship—no doubts, no niggles, no uncertainty.”
“New subjects and old ones, presented brilliantly.”
Please Note
ISCAST’s aim is to generate a constructive conversation and, while ISCAST and NZCIS are committed to orthodox Christian faith and mainstream science, the Conversations speakers may come from a range of positions and do not represent either ISCAST or NZCIS.
Speakers & Topics
20th March | Dr Alan Gijsbers
What are the Sciences and Spiritualties of Clinical Practice?
We can no longer speak of the one science and one spirituality in clinical practice. We see snippets of a greater reality beyond us, and we see aspects of this reality through multiple lenses. Clinical practice itself is based on a multiplicity of different sciences including but not limited to neuroscience, psychology, sociology, epidemiology, nosology and public health. Beyond the sciences we have philosophical, ethical, and aesthetic dimensions lurking behind our scientific perceptions.
Central to clinical practice is the individual patient’s history and its analysis. This calls for hermeneutics, for we hear about what is happening through the lens of the patient’s beliefs about what is happening and the therapist’s perception of the patient’s beliefs.
We interpret addiction through two key questions: what is the taking of addictive substances and why are addictive substances taken. For the first I will look at Thorleys domains of substance use and for the second I will look at a number of models of addictive behaviour. Spirituality is an important dimension of recovery, and we will explore a number of ways these dimensions can be used in clinical care.
Speaker Bio:
Associate Professor Alan Gijsbers. MBBS FRACP FAChAM DTM&H PGDipEpi. Specialist Physician in Addiction Medicine. Former Head of the Addiction Medicine Service Royal Melbourne Hospital and former Director Substance Withdrawal Unit, The Melbourne Clinic Richmond. Former President ISCAST. Current Board member and chair of the governance committee International Christian Medical and Dental Association.
27th March | Dr Hayley Thomas
Delving Under the Surface: Eating Disorders and Christian Spirituality
Eating disorders are serious conditions that have a profound whole-person impact, and that are increasing in prevalence. The physical, nutritional and behavioural ramifications of these conditions warrant careful attention yet could be considered the ‘tip of the iceberg’. Deep struggles with issues such as identity, shame, and suffering often lie under the surface. It is therefore perhaps unsurprising that religion and spirituality seem relevant to some people’s eating disorder journeys. Nonetheless, religious and spiritual aspects are rarely considered in care.
We are undertaking a study to better understand experiences of Christian spirituality in eating disorders from the perspective of people with lived experience of eating disorders, carers, healthcare providers and pastoral carers. We plan to use these insights to co-create a resource to incorporate Christian spiritual aspects in eating disorder care when this is relevant, desired and likely to enhance care.
This presentation will briefly outline the rationale for our study and preliminary findings, with opportunity for audience discussion and input.
3rd April | Dr Danny Cheah
Understanding Mental Health Issues in Children, Young People and Families from a Christian Perspective #dontjustprayitaway
Mental health issues, like physical health issues and all forms of human suffering, occur as a result of the fallen nature of the world we live in. This talk is geared at reducing fear and stigma amongst Christians through understanding mental health issues, integrating faith and clinical perspectives with a focus on children, young people and families.
Speaker Bio:
Dr Danny Cheah is a child and adolescent psychiatrist leading a service with 140 staff providing multidisciplinary mental health care for people aged 0-25 in metropolitan Melbourne. Danny delivers training at churches across denominations and countries to help Christians understand mental health issues, integrating clinical and faith perspectives.
10th April | Dr Brett Mann
TBA
24Th April | Dr Mel Fung
Understanding and Responding to Gender Dysphoria: Research and Clinical Experience
In recent years the condition of Gender Dysphoria has rapidly increased in our society, particularly among young people. Gender Dysphoria is the experience of mismatch between someone’s biological sex and the subjective, psychological sense of their gender. Someone who was born a biological male may have a deep sense they are actually female. This can cause distress and confusion and someone with this condition may seek psychological help. This presentation will be a deeper look at this condition and how we as Christians can understand it and respond to it, whether it is something you personally experience or someone you know does. Dr Fung will share about her research into this area and also her clinical experience of people with this condition.
Speaker Bio:
Dr Mel Fung has worked for over 20 years as a psychologist with 15 years in private practice as a Christian psychologist. She has a special interest in body issues and completed her doctoral thesis in body image, parenting style and self-esteem. Dr Fung recently finished her Master of Theological Studies at SMBC where she conducted research into Christians with Gender Incongruence / Dysphoria and their experience of church. She is passionate about churches engaging with the topic of gender and supporting those with gender identity struggles. This year she attended the Genspect conference in Portugal and wished there was a Christian voice to contribute Jesus’ wisdom to the conversation.
1st May | Dr Christa McKirland
Authority and Power Structures in the Church Which Undermine Individual Agency
The psychological need for agency is well-established in major theories of motivation (such as Self-Determination Theory). However, when it comes to our experiences in churches, agency is easily undermined through authority structures that enable overreach by those with power. In this talk, I will discuss some of my findings from a quantitative survey of NZ Baptists as it relates to authority, power, and agency. I will highlight both the challenges to fostering agency as well as some possible ways forward.
Speaker Bio:
Christa L. McKirland (PhD, University of St. Andrews) is Dean of Faculty and a Lecturer in systematic theology at Carey Baptist College in Auckland, New Zealand. She is the founder and executive director of Logia International.
She haS always loved asking questions, and my research often revolves around inquiries such as: What does it mean to be human? How does Jesus inform our understanding of humanness? What is the role of the Spirit in our maturity as the family of God? What understandings of power and authority facilitate our intended flourishing? How do we foster agency-supportive church structures for the benefit of all?
These questions arise from her understanding of God as one who desires a flourishing creation and calls humanity to participate in sharing power toward this end.
8th May | Dr Nicolette Deva
TBA
15th May | Dr Ruth McConnell
Responding to the Growing Mental Health Crisis as a Christian: Clinical and Theological Perspectives
This talk will address the question, how might Christians think and respond, both clinically and theologically to the growing mental health crisis? Speaking from my 32 years of clinical experience in Counselling Psychology as well as from the foundation of my Christian faith, I am more hopeful about the field of psychological healing than I have ever been, despite the dire statistics. The field of mental health has taken some very positive turns in addressing the pervasive mental health crisis. We had the decade of the brain in the 1990s leading to an explosion of research in neuroscience. The Positive Psychology movement challenged the pathologizing medicalised approach, placing emphasis on resilience and human flourishing. Attachment theory has emphasised the healing power of relational connection ushering in a relational turn in psychology. The rise of indigenous and decolonising practices in psychology challenges the hyper-individualised notion of the self as well as the dualism so prevalent in the West. They have also ushered in the legitimate space for spirituality to be honoured in psychological healing. All of these developments I feel have more alignment with my Trinitarian theological anthropology, seeing humans as Imago Dei, made in the image of God as a relational community of mutual, reciprocal, unconditional love. The more recent development in trauma-informed approaches has also given me hope. Bessel Van der Kolk has hailed Dr Richard Schwartz’ Internal Family systems (IFS) as an approach that “changes the way therapy is practiced.’ In this talk I will give a very brief overview of Internal Family Systems (IFS) approach to healing and its alignment with Christianity.
Speaker Bio:
Dr Ruth Lawson-McConnell is a counsellor, supervisor and trainer in private practice in Auckland. She did her MA (Psychology and Social Anthropology) and her PhD (Counselling Psychology) in Aberdeen, Scotland. She was born and raised in the Amazon Region of Brazil where her Scottish parents were missionaries for 36 years. She studied theology at Regent College in Vancouver BC where she lived before coming to New Zealand for the role of Senior Lecturer in Counselling at Laidlaw College. She is now in private practice, offering counselling, training and specialist supervision on attachment issues, anxiety, depression and trauma and parent consulting on children’s emotional and behavioural issues (www.ruthmcconnell.com).
22nd May | Prof. Jee Huyn Kim
A Christian Scientist’s Views on Memory and Forgetting in Mental Disorders
Learning and memory are fundamental features of humans adapting to an everchanging environment. They have been extensively studied and we have progressed significantly in our psychological and biological understanding of their role in mental disorders. In contrast, the role of forgetting is a recent topic of interest, with the increasing recognition that “to understand how we remember, we must also understand how, and why, we forget”. For example, the ability to forget helps us to adapt by focusing on the present and be creative. Importantly, forgetting allows us to manage living with ghosts from the past. The talk will describe some of the strategies of maintaining good memories while forgetting some memories that may interfere with our daily functioning, focussing on depression but also touching on addiction and anxiety. Surprisingly, biblical verses precede the latest scientific understanding of memory and forgetting, highlighting the need for strengthening our Christian identity to manage and support emotions in us and others.
Speaker Bio:
Professor Jee Hyun Kim is an Australian Research Council Future Fellow and the Head of Molecular Psychiatry Laboratory at the School of Medicine, Deakin University. Jee graduated with 1st class Honours and the University medal in Bachelor of Psychology from the University of New South Wales (Sydney, Australia). After obtaining her PhD, Jee received postdoctoral training at University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, USA) before her appointment at the University of Melbourne in 2011. Jee joined Deakin University in 2020. Jee studies the neurobiology of memory in mental disorders across development and ageing in rodents and humans, with a strong cognition and translation focus. Apart from basic neuroscience work in memory, Jee is currently managing the Trimetazidine In bipolar DEpression (TIDE) clinical trial to test the efficacy of a metabolic drug on reducing depression in bipolar disorder. Jee has won numerous national and international awards for her ground-breaking work, including the World Federation of Societies of Biological Psychiatry Young Investigator Award in 2024. Jee has >100 publications, for which she is the corresponding author to >60. Citations are >4,000. Jee is an active science communicator, with her TEDxMelbourne talk reaching >800,000 views.